How did I debunk myself? Go ahead and explain. Because it's you who made nitpicks and lies that were easily debunked with context.
claims I lied yet sent this pic to me and told me Goku wasn’t using a ki shield and nobody was debunked but you
You're cooked. I said statements alone hold no weight the feat backs the statement.
exactly the feats db doesn’t have remind did Goku actually destroy the universe against beerus or was that statement ohh yeah a statement this logic nobody in dbs is universal but zeno but you do know who has feats that aren’t statements invincible killing spawn and one shotting 2 multiversal beings
Fizz is the same guy who equates lifting to striking. I don't take anything he says seriously.
where he say that either way that’s irrelevant as someone saying 1 thing doesn’t suddenly make everything they say invalid it’s like me saying everything you say shouldn’t be taken seriously because you made goofy claims for db side and have wacky double standards
a splash really you got called out for vision problems and noa you using mental gymnastics ok show me how landing into it making a splash makes a perfect bubble around said person especially when we can literally see the shield there
This is in no way a perfect bubble. Nor is there any ki shield. You clearly can't tell what one looks like or what emerging from a body of liquid looks like lmao.
what nonsense is this Goku was canceling anything out he specifically stated the entire reason the clash happened was because he had figured out how to nullify yet and it took him multiple tries we seen the entire effect of the shock waves they didn’t destroy anything beyond basic planets and stuff the entire reason universal comes from statements you remove those statements and keep the fight the exact same nobody would claim universal meaning the feat relies on statements because he didn’t actually destroy anything
No it's because he didn't perfect it he was nullifying it but it wasn't perfect.
Goku and beerus clash was actually affecting spacetime it's energy even reaching the kaishen realms. Not to mention the energies from they're clashes were so potent tey were still being sensed from different realms.
Even Beerus was nullifying energy and preventing it from destroying anything.
no it is a lie because they aren’t consistently shown that level I literally told you between dbs and dbz combined they have like 5 good feats and a lot relies on statements or over tome stuff meaning yes it’s being a hypocrite as your using double standards when it isn’t consistent for dbz like You talk about outliers or not consistent but Dbs literally has 1 universal feat -zeno invincible has 2 multiversal Omni man has more feats then Goku in universal but muh not consistent
"1 universal feat"
and yes its not consistent they can't even destroy planets without a laser to weaken the core for them to destroy. Show individual planet or multiverse busting feats then talk.
the thing is you are you accept every statement at face value in db ignore all anti feats but invincible you literally said every statement is invalid and wrong and are picky about visuals and anti feats
Too bad i'm not using statements alone.
what does this reply mean are you having another conversation with someone or something you told me he said something about lifting strength I said 1 statement from someone doesn’t suddenly make everything said persons says is wrong or not to be taken seriously and your reply is because that 1 single argument is torn into shreds it makes everything he says not invalid and to be taken seriously
When they keep pushing that same argument over and over to use it to downplay entirely then yes what they say can't be taken seriously.
i 100% think you don’t even know what your saying at this point so this conversation is probably pointless
Something we can agree on lol.
All your points have been debunked .You try to call double standards when that's exactly what your doing. You've ignored and nitpicked context/ blatant scenes as well as twist it to better your argument. news flash that's not gonna work.
No on ein inincible is a planet buster simple as that.
This is in no way a perfect bubble. Nor is there any ki shield. You clearly can't tell what one looks like or what emerging from a body of liquid looks like lmao.
Alright time to end this once and for all clearly can’t tell what one looks like you ready this will will be incredibly hard for you to understand
this first picture is goku when frieza hit him to the lava a splash just like you said Now get ready to have your mind blown 🤯🤯🤯🤯
This is him when he emerges what’s this is that a bubble i see or is my vision acting up just like yours was or you finally ready to admit your wrong and can’t debunk anyone’s arguments
No it's because he didn't perfect it he was nullifying it but it wasn't perfect.
What are you talking about the scan you sent debunks yourself goku was trying to cancel the shock waves then manage go finally do it before the destruction of the universe and no he wasn’t destroying space and time again the only thing the shockwaves actually destroyed are planets and junk nothing the level the statements put it at meaning you remove the statements there is no impressive feat which is 99% of db
1 universal feat"
1 zamasu not so much a feat but rather he merged with it not destroy anything and doesn’t exactly translate to power infinity zamasu was pretty weak bud couldn’t even kill a super tired goku and vegeta who couldn’t even transform that’s how exhausted they was
2nd one jiren transcends time is not a universal feat but a statement so I’m use your logic all statements are irrelevant also Vados is wrong in the first place jiren doesn’t transcend time because 1 hit time powers actually worked on jiren at first and he didn’t just walk through or no sell and 2 Vados is talking about hit powers she is saying he his beyond hit time technique as not even people stronger then jiren zeno transcends times as multiple versions of everyone in db exists nobody in db can even travel through tim without the Time Machine or time ring and even the best time manipulators whis can only mess with time for 3 minutes
the gogeta one also a statement and it’s a novel not the film 2nd of all share source because I’ve heard people say that scan is actually fake so tell me who stated that to be case what position they hold to make such a claim and why it’s canon to the film when it’s literally a novel why ones a film
and yes its not consistent they can't even destroy planets without a laser to weaken the core for them to destroy. Show individual planet or multiverse busting feats then talk.
Yeah because it’s not I ask for feats you send statements lol the one thing you said isn’t allowed yet you send statements this is the exact reason it’s so easy to debate and rip your arguments to shreds you consistently contradict yourself you have horrible double standards case and you can’t even see a simple ki shield when it’s right in front of your face
When they keep pushing that same argument over and over to use it to downplay entirely then yes what they say can't be taken seriously.
and that means it only applies to that argument bruh not everything if he said something like the earth isn’t flat you jus going to be like well he’s wrong actually because of something he said about lifting feats makes this wrong
Something we can agree on lol.
All your points have been debunked .You try to call double standards when that's exactly what your doing. You've ignored and nitpicked context/ blatant scenes as well as twist it to better your argument. news flash that's not gonna work.
No on ein inincible is a planet buster simple as that.
all your points have been debunked the fact you said this also probably supports the you are having a conversation with someone else and replied to me by accident theory I said earlier
we don’t call it double because we think it just plainly is everything you have provided me universe db all statements not actual feats at best you can argue merge zamasu as valid meaning the entirety of dbs without super has 1 universal feats rest only statements we can show you 3 amazing invincible feats that need 0 statements meaning invincible actually has more universal feats then dbs that don’t rely on statements
and the reason you are doing double standards and are a hypocrite is for db you will accept every statement at face value use long scaling chains and ignore every anti feats but for other verse invincible you’ll be super picky and look for anti feats and say because they have an anti feat the entire verse is debunked you’ll say every statement is invalid and call everything outliers literally the definition of double standards
like I’m not even the only only calling you out on it others have said it in the thread meaning stop whining bout debunking people because no matter how many times you say it it won’t make it true meaning you need to treat both verses fairly
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