She can time travel to different universes and realities, teleport people to different dimensions, can scan the multiverse, can summon the Phoenix force from the multiverse,
She's also survived the destruction of an entire time-line, has a natural energy field which protected her from the collapse of the multiverse and can resist reality warping.
Considering Exodus is inferior to her in TP and their TK is comparable the only thing he's got that she doesn't is a faith amp and a healing factor.
Believe these are Acausality meaning she isnt affected when timeline, reality warping and etc happens. Meaning Rachel durability isn't on that level just not affected to warping around her. I don't think this would apply to Exodus though.
@kasya_carey: Its definetly not a durability thing. But Yea but having the ability to exist outside of time and space and withstand reality warping and multiversal effects when combined with her ability to travel to, view and telepathically manipulate other timeliness you have a person who has low level omnipresence bordering on omnipotence when outside of a time line.
Basically they have similar stats in their powers and then there's this entire other area of Rachel's power that he cant remotely compare too.
Betsy. She's a more powerful telepath than Lorna is in her own power. Couple her being a formidable psychic with her stats as Captain Britain and it's over kill.
Betsy. She's a more powerful telepath than Lorna is in her own power. Couple her being a formidable psychic with her stats as Captain Britain and it's over kill.
You can’t compare an abstract to physical power though. it’s not going to scale. We can actually measure Polaris feats to see how much energy she generates to destroy a city or even a planet. you can’t do that with telepathy.
@kasya_carey: Well you can actually measure telepathy in how much minds they can affect, their reach and overcoming psychic resistances/defences. Betsy ranks higher in comparison to other psychics than Lorna does with her peers. Betsy's overall standing as a telepath is simply better than Lorna. Having statements such as being one of the most powerful minds in the universe/planet. Being comparable to Xavier and Jean.
Not to mention if I really wanted to Betsy's physicality as Captain Britain is arguably comparable to Lorna.
Can manipulate metal on the molecular level, shield from nuke explosions, versatility in power like magnetic senses. She seem more powerful more range & She just did this
Other image will not load but she fly through space with the celestial head and crash through their ship with shields breaking their shields
@kasya_carey: Well you can actually measure telepathy in how much minds they can affect, their reach and overcoming psychic resistances/defences. Betsy ranks higher in comparison to other psychics than Lorna does with her peers. Betsy's overall standing as a telepath is simply better than Lorna. Having statements such as being one of the most powerful minds in the universe/planet. Being comparable to Xavier and Jean.
Not to mention if I really wanted to Betsy's physicality as Captain Britain is arguably comparable to Lorna.
Again Betsy being a powerful telepath and Polaris magnetic powers do not scale.
Betsy mind controlling can not compare to Polaris actually destroying something with her power.
@kasya_carey: Well you can actually measure telepathy in how much minds they can affect, their reach and overcoming psychic resistances/defences. Betsy ranks higher in comparison to other psychics than Lorna does with her peers. Betsy's overall standing as a telepath is simply better than Lorna. Having statements such as being one of the most powerful minds in the universe/planet. Being comparable to Xavier and Jean.
Not to mention if I really wanted to Betsy's physicality as Captain Britain is arguably comparable to Lorna.
Again Betsy being a powerful telepath and Polaris magnetic powers do not scale.
Betsy mind controlling can not compare to Polaris actually destroying something with her power.
OK. Take it up with the Op then because you seem to be the only one having a problem with it.
Can manipulate metal on the molecular level, shield from nuke explosions, versatility in power like magnetic senses. She seem more powerful more range & She just did this
Other image will not load but she fly through space with the celestial head and crash through their ship with shields breaking their shields
1) Firstly Betsy can also affect materials on a molecular level and even on a Quantum level which is better than molecular level BTW. She has also shielded from a nuke and due to Betsy being Captain Britain she can see through cloaking spells and as a telekinetic can sense stuff flattening the air. More range? When Betsy has literally used her tp across universes and dimensions.
2) Thats a great feat for Lorna but it's most definitely a high end and not her consistent level. But anyway Betsy has some high end feats as well like punching through a planet sized shield, fending off against Merlyn, shaking the crystal palace, being considered the muscle on the team with characters like Storm and Rachel. Mind you her CB stats are just over kill as contending with Furies, Rogue and matching Brian Braddock just makes her that much more impressive. Not to mention all her tp feats
@mage101: How would you say we should determine who's more powerful between a telepath and someone with a physical ability like Polaris?
The potency of betsy's telepathy + it's consistent range. Which you will compare with polaris magnetic potency, skill, versatility etc. Who is more impressive to you.
Betsy. She's a more powerful telepath than Lorna is in her own power. Couple her being a formidable psychic with her stats as Captain Britain and it's over kill.
You can’t compare an abstract to physical power though. it’s not going to scale. We can actually measure Polaris feats to see how much energy she generates to destroy a city or even a planet. you can’t do that with telepathy.
It all come down to range, versatility and potency with the powers not only destructive feats. In where magnetism shines in destruction, telepathy shines in range and hax so it all comes to who has impressed you more with their powers not how different the powers are.
@mage101: How would you say we should determine who's more powerful between a telepath and someone with a physical ability like Polaris?
The potency of betsy's telepathy + it's consistent range. Which you will compare with polaris magnetic potency, skill, versatility etc. Who is more impressive to you.
@kasya_carey: if the poison manipulator can poison the Earth then they are more powerful due to reach, than a country level anything. You seem to still be on the assumption that these threads are based on destruction when it's overall in various categories. You did it before and were told you're wrong in your interpretation of the thread and here you go again. The thread setup is obviously not for you or to your liking so stop derailing it with nonsense. OP said you're wrong.
Can manipulate metal on the molecular level, shield from nuke explosions, versatility in power like magnetic senses. She seem more powerful more range & She just did this
Other image will not load but she fly through space with the celestial head and crash through their ship with shields breaking their shields
1) Firstly Betsy can also affect materials on a molecular level and even on a Quantum level which is better than molecular level BTW. She has also shielded from a nuke and due to Betsy being Captain Britain she can see through cloaking spells and as a telekinetic can sense stuff flattening the air. More range? When Betsy has literally used her tp across universes and dimensions.
2) Thats a great feat for Lorna but it's most definitely a high end and not her consistent level. But anyway Betsy has some high end feats as well like punching through a planet sized shield, fending off against Merlyn, shaking the crystal palace, being considered the muscle on the team with characters like Storm and Rachel. Mind you her CB stats are just over kill as contending with Furies, Rogue and matching Brian Braddock just makes her that much more impressive. Not to mention all her tp feats
I change to the Betsy then
But I do think this high end will become more consistent for the future of Polaris given the direction they are taking her in
@kasya_carey: if the poison manipulator can poison the Earth then they are more powerful due to reach, than a country level anything. You seem to still be on the assumption that these threads are based on destruction when it's overall in various categories. You did it before and were told you're wrong in your interpretation of the thread and here you go again. The thread setup is obviously not for you or to your liking so stop derailing it with nonsense. OP said you're wrong.
Oh yeah...Betsy.
You can not tell me how much energy is needed to pollute the planet. Even then it depends on what you do and I said poison in the air as in a gas😂 I can tell you it’s 1 terraton to destroy a small country. It is like me throwing poison in the air in someone's home. Does that make me house-level? 😂
So when we learn about energy hit me up again so we can talk sense because what you said is nonsense 😂.
@kasya_carey: if you throw poison in the house and it spreads all over, then you have house level range and thus are house level.
Just like the only criteria for a planetary level telepath is to be able to touch all the minds on a planet.
I'll do that when you learn to read and comprehend the OP of which you are only focusing on one criteria of. Destructive capabilities. This is not about who can blow the most shit up, as it includes other criteria. You ignoring them and continuing to argue just to have something to do, I guess, can only ever be nonsense. Like the post I'm responding to is.
@kasya_carey: if the poison manipulator can poison the Earth then they are more powerful due to reach, than a country level anything. You seem to still be on the assumption that these threads are based on destruction when it's overall in various categories. You did it before and were told you're wrong in your interpretation of the thread and here you go again. The thread setup is obviously not for you or to your liking so stop derailing it with nonsense. OP said you're wrong.
Oh yeah...Betsy.
You can not tell me how much energy is needed to pollute the planet. Even then it depends on what you do and I said poison in the air as in a gas😂 I can tell you it’s 1 terraton to destroy a small country. It is like me throwing poison in the air in someone's home. Does that make me house-level? 😂
So when we learn about energy hit me up again so we can talk sense because what you said is nonsense 😂.
@kasya_carey: for what? It's irrelevant. Read the OP and the room again.
There are 4 categories by which to judge characters. You're only using one. You're not doing it right.
Range doesn't equal power. So spreading poison around a house is not house level as you're not destroying anything. Same thing with someone engulfing the planet in fog... Do do think engulfing the planet in fog is planet-level? When all of the water in the air is only enough to flood the planet which yields multi-continental energy?
Which is why I stated comparing telepathy to magnetism isn't fair as they don't match to justify who's more powerful. Especially when you have someone like Meggan who is a powerhouse can be taken out by Blindfold doesn't mean she's more powerful. it's just Meggan doesn't have defenses.
Hell even the Colossus vs Shadowcat match didn’t even make any sense whatsoever. How do hell you do compare strength to intangibilty to find out who's stronger...
@kasya_carey: You're still doing it wrong. It doesn't matter what you think if the OP is about something you're ignoring. You can't make a point by omitting pertinent information. Make your thread about what you think should be happening in this one.
@kasya_carey: You're still doing it wrong. It doesn't matter what you think if the OP is about something you're ignoring. You can't make a point by omitting pertinent information. Make your thread about what you think should be happening in this one.
Now be gone with you. Go argue witcho momma.
Lmao that last part was so lame😂😂😂like it’s 2024 and it’s giving a yt man just now learning AAVE😭cringe
I made my comment on this thread and you replied so deal with it. Also let's come up with phrases that are more up to date 😂
@kasya_carey: you know what let me quit derailing this thread, just because a butthurt illiterate is mad about the rules of a thread that continues to confuse them.
Have a great day Admiral Richard Tuckington III. Do better with OPs and life, that way it won't take you 9 whole hours to come up with a corny clap back.
@kasya_carey: you know what let me quit derailing this thread, just because a butthurt illiterate is mad about the rules of a thread that continues to confuse them.
Have a great day Admiral Richard Tuckington III. Do better with OPs and life, that way it won't take you 9 whole hours to come up with a corny clap back.
Bye "Gworl".
I said some of the matches don't make sense which they don't.
You can't compare Peter and Kitty in no fashion at all to determine who is more powerful. idc if it's about range or whatever else.
sorry I didn't clap back I'm literally laughing at you. Gworl? 😂😂😂it's giving a yt Twitter stan cosplaying as a black woman so hard. Be yourself baby 😂😂
@kasya_carey: you know what let me quit derailing this thread, just because a butthurt illiterate is mad about the rules of a thread that continues to confuse them.
Have a great day Admiral Richard Tuckington III. Do better with OPs and life, that way it won't take you 9 whole hours to come up with a corny clap back.
Bye "Gworl".
I said some of the matches don't make sense which they don't.
You can't compare Peter and Kitty in no fashion at all to determine who is more powerful. idc if it's about range or whatever else.
sorry I didn't clap back I'm literally laughing at you. Gworl? 😂😂😂it's giving a yt Twitter stan cosplaying as a black woman so hard. Be yourself baby 😂😂
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