@dmnb2wavy:
the problem is your treating the chimera ants like rammot who is more so a mid tier ant actually like the norm( who was stronger than killua and gon at the time). The actual low tier ants can’t even see nen ( as shown in the video above) ultimately I’m not saying chimera ants can’t use nen more innately than humans but for the low end ones they wouldn’t be able to use nen that much more innately than humans and to begin with those are the ones killua, gon and kite were forced to fight.
So you acknowledge they have better innate nen? ok then... Rammot would be more like a mid-low end, squadron commanders are mid tier while high tier are royal guard and god tier is meruem. All the "foot soilders" that Gon and Killua faced looked like they had human traces, so they are not the bottom of the barrel. Like the Rhino guy is obviously somewhat human that the queen ate, they aren't the worst CA's. They definitly have better innate nen than a normal human..........
You say that but wouldn’t gon and killua just nen crushing the ants not only show how strong they are but wouldn’t that be the best way on how to gauge the ant threat as a whole? I don’t see how fist fighting them is a legitimately better gauge.
Not at all? what you're saying is just wrong. If Kite wanted to find out the fighting capabilities of the duo a simple nen crush wouldn't make sense to show of their fighting power. Togashi wrote it so they can show of their combat.
the foot soldiers arent anywhere close to rammot who was clearly labeled as a prodigy when it came to using nen. Ultimately I do not believe the foot soldiers are that much better at using nen than normal humans as there has been zero evidence to suggest that is the case.
Rommot is a low end chimera ant, not much better than the Rhino you linked that Killua fought. You really don't believe that they are better? Killua and Gon took months to learn 1 aspect of nen and they are 1/1000000 talent for a human. But low end Chimera ants does it in mere days? low end Chimera ants are waaay better at using nen. Meruem literally became stronger than any human ever at nen in weeks bar don freecess maybe who has lived 400 years plus.
Its so obvious the chimera ants have better innate nen than any human basically.
You say my explanation is dumb but you do realize how ridiculous that there is zero explanation on why they aren’t even using ren in the first place to nen crush?
There are multiple reasons like i have already explained, 1. Chimera ants just have a better natural innate usage of nen as shown with basically any chimera ant and how fast they can learn it in comparison to humans. 2. Because of plot, you will start crying at this, but it is the reality if you don't agree with the first point about chimera ants being way better at nen naturally. Togashi isn't just gonna make the main characters use a cheese ability to get rid of the low tiers, he has to show the progerssion of the ants and their powers to build up the stronger enemies later on. So it either comes down to chimera ants just being better or Togashi not wanting his series to suck through a cheese ability so he writes it how he wants.
Like you would think that such a powerful ability would eventually get brought up in the story and they would actually explain why they don’t do it but it’s obvious why that isn’t the case which because this is what a lot of manga writers tend to do. It’s again either togashi simply forget, wrote it out of the story or a in story explanation is that it doesn’t work on strong/superior opponents.
Ok lets look at this... you say "it doesn’t work on strong/superior opponents." And you refer to the low end chimera ants that Gon and Killua had no problem with.... You see how this doesn't make any sense at all???? your whole point is that "it doesn't work on stronger opponents" But you argue by using low tier chimera ants as an exmaple????
A more ridiculous explanation is saying plot to or that it’s “ out ofcharacter“ when no other hunter besides gon, killua, kite even attempted it when they don’t even know ants can use nen Ie pike.
Because none of them have ever tried it? lol. People like Hisoka, Pitou ect have done it in the series while the characters you point to have not.
no my point is your just overrating a ability that has never even been showcased in the story. What your arguing is an entirely hypothetical scenario and it would be a nlf to suggest that somehow nen characters could kill someone as/more powerful than them because of that alone.
Hax isn't nlf, even a building level character with hax can beat up universal level characters. Looking at WOU as an example, it beats Goku quite easily actually. Its not NLF.
And also i like how you didn't adress the fact that your whole arguments centers around "stronger opponents can resist it because its never been shown to work on them".
Let me say two things, hax isn't limited by AP or DC, this should be common knowledge by now.... Also you arguing for "it doesn’t work on strong/superior opponents." But never actually bring up that for your arguments, you say "Gon anjd Killua never used it on the foot soilders". Well, they are the weakest of them all and Gon and Killua smashed all the weakest ones..... So they are definitly stronger, i don't see how this relates to nen crush not being effective against a stronger opponent.
The only explanation is either point 1 or 2 that i pointed at, you're just trying to argue something dumb, Wing literally confirmed that it will kill them to try fighting against Hisoka's nen.
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