Round 1
Wall vs Zagred
Round 2
Dimaria vs Megicula
Round 3
Irene Belserion vs Zenon Zogratis
Round 4
Larcade vs Naamah
Round 5
Bloodman vs Lilith
Round 6
August vs Lucifero
- Bloodlusted
- No Restrictions
- Canon feats only
- They are all at their strongest
BC takes round 1 and all other rounds go to spriggans, especially round 5 like lilith has no win condition in that round
Edit: on second thought, R1 can go either way since wall uses anti magic (when he canceled freeds enchantments and other anti magic as well) and he has a weakness analyzer which gives him all of zagreds weakness's
@cosmicemperor said:
Devils all 5 rounds.
how does lilith beat bloodman who has ice devil slayer magic and how does megicula get out of timestop
@vex_haid: Lilith burns all of his ice away and Megicula, even if you want argue can't break out of time-stop, Dimaria can't kill her so she tires herself out trying. After that Megicula eventually kills her.
Zenon claps
Zagred claps
I lack info on the other spriggs
Dimaria can stop time and make someone relieve all the pain they've ever felt in their life, and if I'm not sorely mistaken is at least as strong as, likely stronger than Kagura in pure stats.
Larcade can make someone feel a lot of sexual pleasure, incapacitating them, though that can be countered by hurting yourself; he can make someone so hungry they hallucinate; and he can make someone really sleepy, but when they fall asleep they die. He dwarfs Kagura in strength.
Don't remember enough about Bloodman for actual feats but he has the whole Tartaros guild's powers, including sensory manipulation, mind control, and poisonous water among other things. Also some sort of suicide attack that was about to kill Gajeel but got negged by PIS.
@vex_haid: Lilith burns all of his ice away and Megicula, even if you want argue can't break out of time-stop, Dimaria can't kill her so she tires herself out trying. After that Megicula eventually kills her.
Lilith burns ice? bruh, dimaria doesnt needs to kill megicula to win, megicula has no way to move in timestop so thats a win by default
also lilith cant burn anything, she is the ice one
Zenon claps
Zagred claps
I lack info on the other spriggs
Dimaria can stop time with a click of her teeths and has age scratch, and has age scratch, an ability that can make you feel all the pain that you felt in your entire lifetime
Larcade on the other hand, is a really haxxed spriggan as he has an ability that can put you to eternal sleep for your entire lifetime, like when you close your eyes you really cant wake up, his other useful ability in this fight is hunger, which makes your opponnent hungry forever (like you cant really resist it at all), he can just make naamah eat a rock for eternity
Bloodman is intangible and is made of anti magic particles, if you just breath in his air then you can black out and lose your magic for hours, he has another ability called 4th seal which bfrs you to a place where you cant come back (hell), he has other abilities like macro which controls the opponent and can make them do whatever he wants them to do like even kill themselves, he also has max pain which can make you feel the maximum amount of pain you can ever feel and then he has ice demon slayer, meaning that he can eat ice magic (hes basically resistant to ice magic like gray)
you prob dont have knowledge on wall either (since alot of people dont) so ima just say that wall has a weakness analyzer which can detect weaknesses of other people in seconds
Zenon claps
Zagred claps
I lack info on the other spriggs
Dimaria can stop time with a click of her teeths and has age scratch, and has age scratch, an ability that can make you feel all the pain that you felt in your entire lifetime
Larcade on the other hand, is a really haxxed spriggan as he has an ability that can put you to eternal sleep for your entire lifetime, like when you close your eyes you really cant wake up, his other useful ability in this fight is hunger, which makes your opponnent hungry forever (like you cant really resist it at all), he can just make naamah eat a rock for eternity
Bloodman is intangible and is made of anti magic particles, if you just breath in his air then you can black out and lose your magic for hours, he has another ability called 4th seal which bfrs you to a place where you cant come back (hell), he has other abilities like macro which controls the opponent and can make them do whatever he wants them to do like even kill themselves, he also has max pain which can make you feel the maximum amount of pain you can ever feel and then he has ice demon slayer, meaning that he can eat ice magic (hes basically resistant to ice magic like gray)
you prob dont have knowledge on wall either (since alot of people dont) so ima just say that wall has a weakness analyzer which can detect weaknesses of other people in seconds
This explains said 4 rounds
as for the last one, Irene is simply too haxxed and the stat gap is quite large
@vex_haid: Then she can easily just freeze his magic.
Ok, she stops time, now what? She eventually has to let go of the spell which then gives Megicula time to put a curse on her.
Zenon claps
Zagred claps
I lack info on the other spriggs
Dimaria can stop time with a click of her teeths and has age scratch, and has age scratch, an ability that can make you feel all the pain that you felt in your entire lifetime
Larcade on the other hand, is a really haxxed spriggan as he has an ability that can put you to eternal sleep for your entire lifetime, like when you close your eyes you really cant wake up, his other useful ability in this fight is hunger, which makes your opponnent hungry forever (like you cant really resist it at all), he can just make naamah eat a rock for eternity
Bloodman is intangible and is made of anti magic particles, if you just breath in his air then you can black out and lose your magic for hours, he has another ability called 4th seal which bfrs you to a place where you cant come back (hell), he has other abilities like macro which controls the opponent and can make them do whatever he wants them to do like even kill themselves, he also has max pain which can make you feel the maximum amount of pain you can ever feel and then he has ice demon slayer, meaning that he can eat ice magic (hes basically resistant to ice magic like gray)
you prob dont have knowledge on wall either (since alot of people dont) so ima just say that wall has a weakness analyzer which can detect weaknesses of other people in seconds
This explains said 4 rounds
as for the last one, Irene is simply too haxxed and the stat gap is quite large
agreed
@vex_haid: Then she can easily just freeze his magic.
Ok, she stops time, now what? She eventually has to let go of the spell which then gives Megicula time to put a curse on her.
bloodman can just eat her ice
she wins by default since megicula cant move in stopped time, she can probably do it for hours since its her magic (i mean she was able to do it for a whole episode right? and anime time is faster then ours).
this is just like saying that "X can K.O Y if Y is immortal but Y will still win because Y will get back up eventually"
@vex_haid: Nothing suggests he can eat ice on her level.
There is no such thing as "anime time" as Dimaria has to KO or kill her to win which she can't do either. She eventually tires herself out which leads to her loss.
Dimaria can't KO her so your analogy doesn't work regardless.
@vex_haid: Nothing suggests he can eat ice on her level.
lol tell me how lilith is stronger then bloodman please, before her fusion she is only small country level casually, which is fodder to bloodman as he scales to or above etherion, in fact he is on silvers level who froze atlas flame and atlas flame let natsu destroy the eclipse gate which is equal to etherion
There is no such thing as "anime time" as Dimaria has to KO or kill her to win which she can't do either. She eventually tires herself out which leads to her loss.
Dimaria can't KO her so your analogy doesn't work regardless.
once dimaria activates timestop then she wins by default since megicula can do nothing, whats stopping dimaria from using age scratch and then megicula rolls over the entire floor in pain?
@vex_haid: I would but you're disingenuous moronic self wouldn't understand. Bloodman doesn't scale to Etherion nor does he scale to the other Spriggans in MP as per his own words.
Devils have tanked magic that ignores durability like Spatial magic and Yuno's arrows but a fodder spell is going to do anything?
@cosmicemperor said:
@vex_haid: I would but you're disingenuous moronic self wouldn't understand.
just tell me, and even if lilith is stronger, she wont be stronger by that much so
Bloodman doesn't scale to Etherion nor does he scale to the other Spriggans in MP as per his own words.
i literally showed evidence of bloodman scaling to etherion, he is on silvers level who froze atlas flame and an atlas flame powered natsu destroyed the eclipse gate which is equal to etherion, i never said that he scales to the other spirggans in MP
Devils have tanked magic that ignores durability like Spatial magic and Yuno's arrows but a fodder spell is going to do anything?
age scratch is a fodder spell? it makes you feel all the pain that you felt in your life
@cosmicemperor: Every Spriggan scales to Etherion, including Bloodman.
@lichvanastrea said:
Devils, all rounds.
how does lilith beat bloodman?
and what stops august from copying luciferos gravity magic? lucifero doesnt uses a grimoire and speed is equal
lucifero no diffed asta, august is doing nothing
OT: devils all rounds
how is asta stronger then august? asta is only small continent level which is fodder to august
as for devils all rounds, how is lilith gonna beat bloodman who is basically her straight up counter/kryptonite (hes made of anti magic particles)
@vex_haid: isnt august country level via a suicide attack? lol
@limitbreaker1 said:
@vex_haid: isnt august country level via a suicide attack? lol
thats a much bigger country then anything in BC, and it was never stated that it was his limit since wall someone who is fodder to him uses etherion which can destroy countries, even brandish is titled as a nation destroyer yet it was stated numerous times that base augusts magic power surpasses brandish by a huge amount
melting/vaporizing is better then destroying btws
@limitbreaker1: another thing is that natsu with atlas flames power destroyed the eclipse gate which is equal to etherion which can destroy countries, silver froze and killed atlas flame and silver is on the level of bloodman (since bloodman uses his magic), bloodman is a spriggan and it was stated that august is the strongest or 2nd strongest spriggan
so august>bloodman=silver>atlas flame natsu>eclipse gate=etherion=country level
@legend9384: how tf is etherion only multi mountain? it was legit calced by the magic council to be continental (since countries in FT are the size of continents)
asta fodderized fused lilith and naamah who are both large country+ making asta small continent level, brandish can legit shrink countries (countries in FT are the size of continents) making her continental
stop lowballing and then tag me
how tf is etherion only multi mountain?
Thanks to multiple on-panel feats that shows Etherion's DC capping at mountain to multi-mountain at very best maybe?
Etherion destroys countries you said? Sure. Vatican sized countries. Yup, Vatican is a country... so multiple feats = statements in this case.
megicula cant move in timestop,
Megicula would place a curse on her, which proceeds to weaken and destroy the effects of her magic before effectively killing her.
lilith kills herself,naamah gets put to sleep,
Lilith and Naamah's magic freeze and burn magic at a conceptual level. Bloodman and Larcade don't have any way of getting around that.
zenon gets turned to a rat or bfred on a continental range,
Ok, cool. Does turning him into a rat shut off his magic all of the sudden? Either way, Zenon would nullify her magic with spatial domination. He can also teleport too.
zagred gets bombed by arcane or saint magic and
I don't recall Wall being capable of using Arcane or Saint Stage magic.
lucifero gets his magic copied and then crushed by it
August would get overwhelmed by Lucifero's mere presence before he could even do anything.
how fast is her curse? bcs all dimaria needs to do is click her teeth to stop time
She instantly placed a curse on herself that restored her body quickly and proceeded to place another one on Undine before she could use Saint Stage with Noelle.
define "concept" for me, thinking they can burn/freeze concept is like saying that natsu can burn time, both of them are outliers.
And no, it's not an outlier, because prior to this, Nacht planned to trap them in a world where life and death is non existent.
bloodman has ice resistance just like gray meaning that ice magic cant work on him since he has ice devil slayer,
To what degree? Cause we've clearly seen from Invel's fight that Ice Devil Slayers like Gray can still feel the cold.
larcade can make naamah hungry for the rest of her life
Devils don't need to eat to live in the first place.
well once he is a rat then he wont have a devil heart bcs rats dont have devils heart they only have normal hearts,
Humans don't have devil hearts to begin with, but it didn't stop Zenon from gaining one anyways. I'm not seeing how turning Zenon into a rat would just suddenly get rid of his devil powers and magic and prevent him from regaining them.
she can also just mind control zenon since she got that ability in the new chapter
Again, she would have to deal with Zenon's Spatial Magic, which nullifies magic and spells.
zenon cant nullify magic, if he can then he would be above supreme devils which is nonsense since we saw supreme devils get folded by anti magic
Yes, he can. His magic makes it so that he can take control of his opponent's magic within his space, nullifying their spells.
we dont know if he can teleport on a continental range
There's nothing that suggests there's a limit range to his teleportation.
wall can analyze peoples weakness and once he find there weakness he uses it against them
And how does he use Arcane or Saint Stage magic with that? Does he just suddenly conjure up a spell that's in those stages?
no he wont august took gildarts strongest attack without any damage and gildarts strongest attack is around island level, lucifero himself is around island level for now so lucifero cant do anything, even without ars magia, august is large island+ bare minimum that is enough to overpower lucifero
Island level? You think Lucifero is around Gildarts's tier when characters far weaker than him would beat Gildarts?
Only one debatable round is 1st.
Spriggans win all rounds and LOL at Zenon claps if Irene folds him and his verse lol.
but what do you mean by "instantly", instantly can be anything, it can be with a thought, it can be with a wave of hand, it can be with a snap, etc, dimaria can use timestop instantly by clicking her teeth so can megicula activate her curse faster?
It was done before any of her opponents could react.
all they did was burn the magic not the concept, if life and death didnt exist then how did nacht,lilith and naamah exist there? they have a life
The magic is the concept itself; a world where life and death is non-existent. It's stated right there in the scans. Their magic is capable of freezing and burning things that are physically not there.
to a good enough degree. silvers ice managed to freeze sun village for several days to several weeks since it was a "little while" ago when warrod visited it, and the village was in the middle of the desert meaning it was exposed to direct sunlight yet silvers ice didn't even budge, this is impressive bcs later on natsu melted the sun village and then silver casually froze natsu again, meaning that casual silver>natsu>silvers ice that didnt come close to melting when being exposed to direct sunlight and grays ice was on par with silvers yet silver wasnt even affected by it as he was eating it like it was nothing, silver is relevant here bcs bloodman is equal to silver
This is not enough. This is resistance on a physical degree, but not at a conceptual one.
larcades magic can still make them hungry hallucinate, he can also just make her sleepy and put her to sleep forever
You can't make them hallucinate hunger or sleep when they don't even need either of those things to function in the first place. The only thing that keeps them alive are their hearts and so long as that is intact, they cannot be harmed.
zenon gained one was bcs his devil gave him one
I know. That's exactly my point.
well it probably wont get rid of his powers but it can get rid of his devils heart bcs zenon gained the devil heart when he became a devil, when he was a human he didnt have one so why would he have a devil heart as a rat?
As long as he is contracted with Beelzebub, his powers are not going anywhere. The moment he agreed to sacrifice his heart, he agreed to forever change his fate. But assuming that he does lose them, he can contract with Beelzebub again to sacrifice his heart again.
irene already countered this in canon 50 chapters ago when wendy was in control of her power but irene overtook her
That's not the same thing. Zenon takes control of the entire space around him and within his space, he weakens and nullifies magic spells entirely.
then why didnt he just teleport every devil out of the underworld if he didnt have a limit range?
Because it doesn't work like that. The devils can only be summoned by performing sacrificial rituals.
well he can just add them in etherion and fire them, etherion is mountain to multi mountain level, i remember supreme devils like fused lilmah being multi mountain level and fused lilmah is>base lilith and naamah who zagred is fodder to so zagred should be around city level, a arcane or saint magic powered etherion would vaporize zagred
I don't know where you're getting city level from.
weaker characters only beat gildarts are devils bcs of there devil hearts, lucifero beats him to bcs of devil heart only but lucifero is as strong as gildarts as both are around island level but it could change for both in the future
No, characters like Asta, Yuno, Nacht, Yami and some of the other captain tier characters are capable of going toe to toe with Gildarts and even beat him. Idk why you think the strongest being in BC only caps at island level.
Wahl vs Zagred: Wahl could modify his body to use white/holy magic since one of his fodder robots did exactly that, but Zagred's word hax seems pretty op so I'll go with him.
Dimaria vs Megicula: Dimaria apparently has no way to beat her.
Irene vs Zenon: Irene removes all of his MP.
Larcade vs Naamah: No way to kill her.
Bloodman vs Lilith: Bloodman has ice devil slaying magic which would let him freeze her for eternity and is made to be heavily affective against demons and their magic. Someone much weaker than him used it to freeze Atlas Flame and the entire Sun Village casually, so Bloodman should have no problem doing the same. Burning/Freezing concepts is too vague and IIRC has never shown anything impressive. He can also bring her to the underworld as a last resort.
August vs Lucifero: If Lucifero has no Grimoire then August can instantly copy, nullify, and master everything he has. He still needs more feats.
@legend9384: it was atlas flame who burned silvers ice, not natsu
Wahl vs Zagred: Wahl could modify his body to use white/holy magic since one of his fodder robots did exactly that, but Zagred's word hax seems pretty op so I'll go with him.
Dimaria vs Megicula: Dimaria apparently has no way to beat her.
Irene vs Zenon: Irene removes all of his MP.
Larcade vs Naamah: No way to kill her.
Bloodman vs Lilith: Bloodman has ice devil slaying magic which would let him freeze her for eternity and is made to be heavily affective against demons and their magic. Someone much weaker than him used it to freeze Atlas Flame and the entire Sun Village casually, so Bloodman should have no problem doing the same. Burning/Freezing concepts is too vague and IIRC has never shown anything impressive. He can also bring her to the underworld as a last resort.
August vs Lucifero: If Lucifero has no Grimoire then August can instantly copy, nullify, and master everything he has. He still needs more feats.
Hows megicula gonna get out of timestop? and larcade could just make naamah sleepy
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