Koays

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Between constantine and vision id say constantine

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dam.....

Magik is too big a problem here. Just binding Nightcrawler and her history of off paneling him give her the edge but Rogue just can't counter her well enough.

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Girls got a good shot at winning this but I'm still not sure.

Cables defenses are pretty great....Sue's TP defenses are suspect but still need to be factored. Cables gear and powers also hard counter Rachel's time manip, while Sue's the big swinging dick in terms of destructive power in this fight.

Rachel can hang with Sue for some time with TK if she has to and brawl out it, whereas Betsy is pretty much a 50/50 with Cable. The girls combo TP is gonna make the difference but they need to slow down Sue long enough to do it.

Rachel's general style of attack being massive Psi bolts means that she's doing exactly what she needs to do to beat Cable but how long it takes is gonna be the deciding factor since a protected Sue is gonna beat her eventually. If they can drop Cable they've got this, but between his defenses and Sue's that's gonna be hard.

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@thedailybagel: I agree, but I guess the assumption is that he'd win if she had to alternate forms....although really it seems like that would just be a more complicated fight since they'd both have to find a way to work around her form switches.

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Storm....too much stuff going for her currently

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@thedailybagel: yea, but that's the point. She has diamond form TP in this thread. He doesn't have the feats to break her and she doesn't feel pain meaning this comes down to TP again which he really doesn't have the feats to beat Emma in.

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@thedailybagel: If we're judging off of a non fight, then Xemnu not being able to overcome Moondragons defenses without switching to physical would make him inferior to her and thus inferior to Emma through scaling.

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Generally White Raven in a straight up fight wins solidly but once we start getting into Shenanigans?

Rachel just slowed down time so she and Betsy could have an endless amount of time to break through Saturnynes mental defenses....

She's got major time travel and manip feats that I don't think Raven can directly counter.

That said as far as straight up damage there's not much Rachel can do to directly hurt her outside of TP abuse