Zamasu arc SSB Vegito
Broly movie SSB Gogeta
Manga MUI Goku
Can Goku take them both down at the same time?
Movie SSJB Gogeta likely solos.
I dont think SSJB Vegito can win though. I have him maxing out around 100% Jiren or a little before, however due to Time limit he is severely hampered.
@takenstew22: Why do you think Vegito gets stomped? Goku can't logically be above a fusion of him and Vegeta.
@takenstew22: Why do you think Vegito gets stomped? Goku can't logically be above a fusion of him and Vegeta.
Because Goku and Vegeta weren't anywhere near as powerful as now.
Goku stomps.
The original MUI was more powerful than Jiren who is above Beerus. And that’s prior to him improving from that to destroy LB Jiren who beat down the original MUI.
Goku on the other hand only thinks Broly “might” be as strong as strong as Beerus.
This isn’t even counting current MUI Goku who, if we take Merus’ assessment seriously, who states that no one can beat Goku in this iteration of it.
Vegito gets stomped and Gogeta gives a relatively good fight.
Fusions win. Vegito with the final kamehameha is comparable to Beerus. The FK is a power amping technique that takes to users battle power up minimum 3-4 times. Beerus stayed in a guide that MUI from the TOP “might have” surpassed him. Initial MUI Goku and Beerus at max are relevant. Vegito should be around 25-33% MUI initially. He gets stomped hard even if it is MUI from the TOP let alone current MUI.
Now Gogeta on th other hand is a different story. Gogeta has the power advantage imo. Stomping Broly someone else comparable to Beerus just like initial MUI casually not even taking a hit the entire time whilst only using a hint of his true power is too strong for MUI to deal with in raw strength. Either Gogeta wins high dif because it’d be tough to land decisive blows or whoever timer runs out first be it Gogeta or Goku, the one left standing wins. More times than not I’d see the fusions taking it.
Anime: Vegito Blue > MUI Goku >> Gogeta Blue, so Vegito Blue solos.
People forget that Vegito Blue not only has statements that puts the Potara as much more powerful than the Dance, but the Potara also has the rival boost that further adds on top of the difference in power. Not to mention, Vegito Blue scales off of SSJ2 Kefla, the latter who already is comparable with UI Omen Goku. Considering the difference in power between SSJ2/SSB and Goku + Vegeta/Kale + Caulifla, it's not difficult to deduce that Vegito Blue is above even MUI Goku.
Manga: MUI Goku >= Vegito Blue = Gogeta Blue, but team still wins because Goku can't 1v2.
The statements of the Potara and the Dance still stands, but Gogeta Blue has MSSB while Vegito only has SSB, so that makes up for the power difference. Gogeta is much stronger if scaled from the manga.
Team wins, also Vegito is a factor his power was comperd to Beerus its enough to make diffrance with Gogeta backing him.
I still Belive MUI is better than fusion tho by the locks of it.
Team win.
Vegito is equal to Beerus
Gogeta defeated Broly(with ease) who rivals Beerus
Theres no way he can win
The only argument is Gogeta, Vegito from Zamasu arc gets stomped badly. Gogeta is a maybe, but I'd still side with MUI Goku.
Previous arc fusions: Goku two shots. The gap in power is that big. Current arc fusions: Team shitstomps. Goku could take one, two are too much.
Goku stomps both. Moro who Goku states > Broly and Jiren broke his hand from punching Goku. Gogeta stomped Broly, but not that hard where Broly took himself out from hitting Gogeta(although he never got to hit Gogeta).
I would bring up Jiren, but not too caught up with manga TOP scaling and only anime. Jiren seems weaker in the manga too so eh.
@mattyboi: The manga ToP scaling is pure garbage nonsense Toyotaro somehow thinks Ultimate Cuckhan can be on par with Kefla despite the fact that she should've pegged him and one shotted him like she would've done to anyone in the arena besides Jiren and MUI Goku in the true canon the anime.
@gelato_exotic: Roshi vs Jiren still makes me laugh...the manga is alright in some points, but the T.O.P is really bad imo.
@morningstar999: For me personally only thing the ToP arc was useful for was saving the Kefla panels for future profile pictures.
@gelato_exotic: For me just the design of Ui Goku. I like the manga version better.
@gelato_exotic: I actually wish the anime did Gohan better in the TOP arc though. I don't mind Gohan tying with Kefla though he was fodder in the Moro arc so Im confused.
@gelato_exotic: I actually wish the anime did Gohan better in the TOP arc though. I don't mind Gohan tying with Kefla though he was fodder in the Moro arc so Im confused.
I mean, Gohan kept up with Full Power Dyspo who was blitzing SSG Goku and Hit earlier in the anime, he did pretty good.
Moro Arc overall was just complete garbage tbh.
@gelato_exotic: That's true, I'm just a Gohan fan and wanted to see more from him in the anime with his ultimate power.
I can agree with that, though MUI Goku vs Moro was enjoyable to read.
@mattyboi: Toyotaro is an 11/10 artist but he can't write a good story to save his life. He should honestly just let Toriyama fully take over for writing while he does the art kinda like Boruto's situation right now. It'd be better for everyone.
@gogito: hi there dude
one question
so that means if we are puting on (hypothetical vegito super saiyan blue DBS Broly movie) against a goku mui (vice versa hypothetical DBS Broly Movie)
vegito would easily god-shit-omega-stomp goku?
@mrquestions2020: Definitely, Fusion is blatantly a greater increase in power then any other amps
Current MUI is too Strong for them but with his nerfs they probably wins it with his short time limit.
@gogito: it gave me the idea to create a meme LOL
Goku MUI: TAKE THIIIIIIIIS! >:l
Vegito Blue: *Stops his punch, and hits him back even worse, outpacing the reaction of ultra instinct*
It was at this moment Goku MUI knew, He fucked up....
Zamasu Arc SSB Vegito is at least on par with Beerus if not above.
Gogeta during the Broly Arc should at least be on par with Vegito. While the fusion is inferior in power, he makes it up by operating on a Mastered version of Super Saiyan Blue, compared to Vegito's unmastered version.
Unfortunately, this level of power is far from adequate against the likes of MUI Goku. Goku should win without trouble.
base gogeta oneshots any version of goku, anyone who says goku or vegeta can beat their own fusions is completly out of their mind and read fanfiction
it doesnt matter what transformations goku or vegeta unlock, their fusions gogeta and vegito will by definition always be massively more powerful than them, as it has clearly been shown in all official media
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