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Rules/Stipulations:
- 616 Peak Magneto
- 616 Vision
- DC Characters are Post crisis/New 52
Magneto and Vision vs Green Lantern and Martian Manhunter
since when is Manhunter not "strong enough" to overpower Magneto (normal human strong)
He can't overpower his magnetic powers or his shields.
and Vision (not really Martian Manhunter power levels) ?
Vision is easily in Martian Manhunter's weight class, if not stronger. He physically matched the likes of Hulk, Ultron, Wonder Man, Thor, traded blows with Super-Adaptoid with combined powers of Thor, Iron Man and Giant-Man, had Silver Surfer on the ropes in a physical fight, regularly shrugs off blows from Ultron, Thor, Hulk, Hyperion, Super-Skrull, Thing, Wonder Man, Hercules, Steel, Count Nefaria and other heavyweights, KOd Jane Thor and Wonder Man physically, wasn't even budged by the force that was overpowering Annihilus, broke Phoenix's grip, overpowered Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Iron Man and Giant-Man at the same time in JLA/Avengers, manhandled Dr. Doom, a skrull with his powers traded blows with Sentry while not at maximum density. At his maximum density he is considerably more durable than J'onn is and consistently stronger than him too.
Martian Manhunter is Superman level strong,
No he's not.
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People weaker than Superman (Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Superboy, Green Lanterns, Imperiex Probes) and comparable to Superman (Zod, Doomsday, Shazam, Black Adam, Antaeus, Weird) trash and overpower him all the time, Superman outperforms him constantly and has manhandled him multiple times. He's been one-shot by Cyborg Superman, who was stomped by Supergirl right afterwards, physically restrained by Aquaman and Flash (neither of whom are even close to Superman when it comes to physicals), couldn't beat Superboy and Impulse while posessed by Despero, got his nose broken by Midnighter, couldn't beat a weakened Atrocitus together with Apollo and Midnighter, and so on and so forth.
has gone toe to toe against the likes of Despero,
Despero stomped him every time they fought. And J'onn had many people assisting him on some of these occasions.
Shazam,
Brainwashed Shazam (who was also fighting back against the mind control at the moment) was kicking his ass and would have delivered a final blow if his controller didn't fail and MMH didn't sucker punch him while Billy was confused and disoriented.
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And when the tables were turned (MMH was the one who was brainwashed), Billy overpowered him and almost choked him out (made worse by the fact that MMH had Wonder Woman, Warrior, Kyle Rayner and Flash assisting him and Billy dealt with them all).
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Superman,
I adressed this already. There are way more instances of MMH getting manhandled by Superman or equivalent foes than there are instances of the opposite happening.
White Martians
One of the few rare instances of MMH not being sub-Superman tier.
and Lobo.
Lobo treated him, G'Nort and Rocket Red like children and manhandled them all at the same time.
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Which is made worse by the fact that two issues later Guy Gardner was evenly matched with Lobo when they were arm wrestling.
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Martian Manhunter isn't "Superman level". If Superman was Hulk, MMH would be She-Hulk, and I'm not even sure if the gap between Hulk and She-Hulk is as big as the gap between Superman and Manhunter.
what is this, amateur hour?
Self-conscious. I like that.
DC duo wins. They are much more powerful... much!
No, they are not. Guy Gardner is a bigger gun than Manhunter is and I seriously question his chances of beating either Magneto or Vision.
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