@thedevil98: she didn't have defenses in that either. Xavier casually entered her mind and America escaped because she couldn't do anything in the real world while telepathically engaged.
Xavier entered the variant's mind, and Wanda killed him easily. Nor was it telepathic engagement either, it was the multiverse magic of dreamwalking.
Wanda literally has no TP defence/combat feats till MoM. So Jean stops there.
This is literally the most generic fallacy someone can commit. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. Wanda had no prior TP defense feats in Wandavision, but she still busted out the astral realm through sheer power against Agatha in a mental fight. Do you see the logic here? AOU Wanda can literally do the same thing too, since there's no actual skill involved in overwhelming Jean with raw power. And AOU Wanda's got plenty of raw power over Jean.
But let's say I do follow your principle. Even if(hypothetically) there's no evidence for "Wanda to shield against Jean", the same applies vice versa: what's stopping AOU Wanda from mind-controlling Jean, as she did to the Sokovian residents? Jean doesn't even possess any defenses against mind-control, or illusions near Wanda's scale, which she used frequently, so how does she defend against it? Her best feat is manipulating the astral realm against Madelyne, but that's not consistent for her, nor does it counter the attacks here.
And if we're comparing telekinesis, Jean's best feat still pales in comparison to AOU Wanda. She carried a medium-sized block from a building and held apart some water, whereas Wanda stopped an accelerated train in motion during AOU, and ripped out Ultron's Core, damaging his Vibranium suit in the process (that had also just tanked a combined attack from Thor, Iron Man, and Vision)
AOU Wanda's also faster on the draw and can disintegrate her quite easily:
I need to get around to watching the show but can someone list Jean’s feats so far
In basic terms, adding og series feats to a competent current series Jean,
There is also another character in the series Jean scales off of directly, but I don't know if you plan on watching, so I won't spoil anymore than I have. Lol!
Also, WATCH THE SHOW! IT'S SO GOOOOD!!!!
For context on Rogue's scaling as to why the last tk feat is impressive in X-Men '97, here are some og feats for Rogue,
@rajjarsalt: no it wasn't the TAS variant and if it was it was PIS. TAS Xavier himself was buried under psychic rubble by Dark Phoenix and shifted himself into a giant to break free. TAS Xavier would have freed the variant and ended the dreamwalk, based on that one feat alone. MoM Xavier is in Earth-838. TAS is in Earth-92131. TAS Xavier is not British.
The second paragraph is irrelevant. If you can't block your mind being entered you can't block a psi bolt.
"No it can't be! It's stupid, it's plot!"
What a classic coping mechanism. WoG say Earth-838 variant is of TAS Xavier and FOX Xavier. Variant scaling holds in MCU.
You're talking about relevance?
>kills him instantly
>"OH BUT HE ENTERED HER MIND THO!"
X entering while she was "intensively concentrating...exhausting herself mentally and physically" to maintain the Darkhold's multiverse magic, a near-impossible feat in its own right, something that maybe only two sorcerers in all of existence can do, is by no means a proof that she can be one-shot by TP.
For gods sake, stop spreading misinformation. From a writer who worked on MoM in a Variety interview,
https://variety.com/2022/film/news/doctor-strange-2-spoilers-scarlet-witch-cameos-1235263318/
I will even do you the favor of quoting the article,
A little bit of both. I don’t know if I’m technically supposed to get into specifics about these actors or characters, but I worked with that performer to even talk about making it different, so it was a different version of him. He uses a line from “Days of Future Past” that he says to Stephen. But also, we drew from the classic cartoon version of that character. He’s a variant who has qualities of a bunch of different versions of those guys from across the multiverse.”
For anyone who doesn’t know what the definition of variant is,
“Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages ·
noun
a form or version of something that differs in some respect from other forms of the same thing or from a standard.
"clinically distinct variants of malaria"”
There you go. Bring a variant means a version of something, aka not the same thing. So, unless we want to start applying every feat across the multiverse of a character, I suggest you quit spreading this misinformation.
Xavier in MoM was never animated series Xavier and he never will be. End of story.
All that only to fumble by posting a dictionary definition of a variant. You don't know what you're talking about - you did not use MCU material to define variants, not even the basic stuff that is considered common knowledge. Nice one.
Interesting how you missed
”Where did you draw from to build this version of Professor X? The Fox movies or the comics and the animated series from the 1990s?
A little bit of both
I said he was of both TAS and FOX, didn't I? No need to get so mad about it lol.
The irony is that your caveat is precisely what variant scaling is. Being "variant" suffices for cross-applying feats across a connected multiverse.
I didn’t miss it. Because it wasn’t the main point. And I am annoyed, but not angry. Prod at me and I will get angry. This is your only warning, please respect that.
As for your rebuttal,
“A little bit of both”
Try putting together a puzzle with a little bit pieces of two separate puzzles and see if the picture comes out the exact same as either.
Please stop with the mental hoops. You are wrong, plain and simple.
You want to argue for 838 Xavier, you do it off of the feats he has shown in the movie. No one is believing that TAS series Xavier is the same because he was confirmed not the same.
And until you can point to what aspects the writer intended for 838 Xavier to use from 97 Xavier, you will not use 97 Xavier. If you do, it will only serve to look unfavorably as you would be ignoring a writers actual statement. For your own sake of reputablility, adapt instead of doubling down on a point you know is wrong.
@pyrofn Wait you're being serious? Ugh...
You know Lord Feige himself showed up on 616 Krakoa, right?
He won't stop at your 21st century foxy, nor your cartoons, neither!
@pyrofn Wait you're being serious? Ugh...
You know Lord Feige himself showed up on 616 Krakoa, right?
He won't stop at your 21st century foxy, nor your cartoons, neither!
Okay. Good for him.
What does this have to do with anything?
Also, what are you even on about “he won’t stop at your 21st foxy, nor your cartoon”?
Please actually use complete thoughts. You’re not making any sense.
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