Cav: Erron Black (oceanmaster21) vs Mccree (Reaper4) OPEN FOR VOTES

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Mccree has caused trouble for Outworld forces. Shao Kahn hires Erron Black for a hefty sum of money to kill Mccree.

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Erron Black catches Mccree at Outworlds marketplace. Which deadly gunslinger will prevail?

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Oh yeah I forgot Mccree is Cole Cassidy now. Eh whatever

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Strength

Some strength feats

Crunches metal

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Punches an armored man unconcious 0:18

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Broke someone's nose with a punch

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Durability

Was fine after being caught in the blast of an explosion

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Crashes through a window and is fine

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Draw speed/accuracy

Now the main important part of this debate is draw speed and skill and Mccree beats Erron Black in this department

Described as having eagle like speed

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Outdraws Ashe and shoots a guys weapon out of his hand (4:43

Overwatch Animated Short | “Reunion” (youtube.com)

Ashe can shoot bottles in a split second (Line 23-25)

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Is able to shoot playing cards 50 yards away

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Shoots a revolver out of a guys hand

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Can even shoot a guy without looking (5:27)

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Shoots grenades after throwing them midair 5:41

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I don't see Erron Black matching these feats of accuracy or draw speed at all

Conclusion

Mccree is just a better shot and Is faster on the draw. Mccree will not miss and will be the victor of this draw for his better accuracy and speed

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@reaper4: Awesome sauce-nice opening i go in morning

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Strength:

He a good h2h combatant and he can break apart metal chains

https://streamable.com/gbfgo

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Durability:

Erron is durable to be slashed through the chest and not bleed out- He can even handle being thrown around by an Amped Raiden who can not only break through stone pillars, but his lighting can knockout out multiple opponents at once.

Accuracy/Aim

Can shoot through opponents while they are in the air.

And as you see here in the Fatality videos- Erron is a superb marksman&H2h Combatant.

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And here the link to other one-says age restricted- So if you have a YouTube account type this in and watch.

https://youtu.be/3iDmpTcKmC4?si=Ap367KM1GT8iNti2

This would be a great match to watch, but in the end Erron Black wins- He is just as Good a marksman& Erron is a better h2h combatant.

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Strength:

He a good h2h combatant and he can break apart metal chains

https://streamable.com/gbfgo

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Durability:

Erron is durable to be slashed through the chest and not bleed out- He can even handle being thrown around by an Amped Raiden who can not only break through stone pillars, but his lighting can knockout out multiple opponents at once.

Ok Erron is obviously better in h2h due to stats and skill but none of that matters when this will go done to purely a gun fight imo

Accuracy/Aim

Can shoot through opponents while they are in the air.

And as you see here in the Fatality videos- Erron is a superb marksman&H2h Combatant.

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That hand shooting feat is impressive but id doesn't look like he was very far from Havik. Mccree was able to shoot a small card from fifty yards away with his gun. Also Erron Black bouncing a bullet off the to hit the target is impressive but again he wasn't that far and imo not as impressive as shooting small targets at longer distances Mccree is able to do. And even if there accuracy were equal it's about speed and Mccree would shoot first due to his reflex

Mccree has outdraw Ashe (4:42)

And Ashe has the reflexes to react and duck under bullets ( 5:08)

Mccree himself has dodged bullets after its fired so even if Erron manages to shoot first Mccree would dodge it and shoot Erron in the head (5:17)

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Conclusion

Mccree is faster on the draw and would be the first to shoot. Even if Erron Black managed to get a shot off Mccree would be able to dodge and land a headshot. Erron Black has no bullet timing feats so the gun fight would end quickly with Erron Black dead on the ground with a bullet in his head

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So you Agree, if comes to physicals Erron takes it, pretty handily. And Imo opinion, it can very well come to that.

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Yes Mcree is a great marksman but Erron is as well. Here you see below ,his skills, if the video dosen't load-you may have to look it up on youtube- Here the link.

https://youtu.be/3iDmpTcKmC4?si=H5wjT4izQ5poFncH

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Erron can even hang with Raiden in combat ,even dodging some lighting blast.

https://youtu.be/2J9dQXsJHgg?si=CMtvWmem8ZY6G8Pg

now lighting travels at very high speeds- Here to see how fast.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e79ecd05c4947a45JmltdHM9MTcxNDUyMTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0yNDZlNWVhMi0xN2FkLTZjZDAtMDNkOS00ZDUzMTZmZjZkMTgmaW5zaWQ9NTI1OQ&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=246e5ea2-17ad-6cd0-03d9-4d5316ff6d18&psq=how+fast+is+lighting&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90aGV0ZWNoeS5saWZlL2hvdy1mYXN0LWlzLWxpZ2h0aW5nLw&ntb=1

In the end- I believe Erron is just a good a marksman with better physicals. And will claim his bounty in the end. plus-no distance was given for battle-so incase they are infact close quarters-It's a wrap. If distance same result-just taking longer.

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Final rebuttals

So you Agree, if comes to physicals Erron takes it, pretty handily. And Imo opinion, it can very well come to that.

Well Mccree has a flashbang to stun Erron long enough for Mccree to get a shot on him if he gets close so thats not a good idea

Overwatch: McCREE - Flashbang (Ability Preview) (youtube.com)

Yes Mcree is a great marksman but Erron is as well. Here you see below ,his skills, if the video dosen't load-you may have to look it up on youtube- Here the link.

https://youtu.be/3iDmpTcKmC4?si=H5wjT4izQ5poFncH

Well even if Erron has marksmanship as good as Mccree it wouldn't matter since neither will miss and it will depend entirely on speed which Mccree has Erron beat seeing as he has feats of outdrawing bullet timers in a gun contest

Erron can even hang with Raiden in combat ,even dodging some lighting blast.

https://youtu.be/2J9dQXsJHgg?si=CMtvWmem8ZY6G8Pg

now lighting travels at very high speeds- Here to see how fast.

https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=e79ecd05c4947a45JmltdHM9MTcxNDUyMTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0yNDZlNWVhMi0xN2FkLTZjZDAtMDNkOS00ZDUzMTZmZjZkMTgmaW5zaWQ9NTI1OQ&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=246e5ea2-17ad-6cd0-03d9-4d5316ff6d18&psq=how+fast+is+lighting&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90aGV0ZWNoeS5

Thats gameplay though and Erron dodging lightning is dependant on the players skill and has no canon feats of actually dodging bullets. Meanwhile I show Mccree displaying quick draw speed to outdo capable gunslingers like Ashe and shown that Mccree can dodge bullets.

In the end- I believe Erron is just a good a marksman with better physicals. And will claim his bounty in the end. plus-no distance was given for battle-so incase they are infact close quarters-It's a wrap. If distance same result-just taking longer.

Well in battle forums theres usually a decent amount of distance by default. Erron has better physicals and may be comparable in marksmanship but Mccree has speed and thats all that matters. Mccree would shoot Erron in the head or if Erron gets the first shot Mccree would dodge and still shoot Erron through the head. The fight would never be up close and the fight would be over quickly. I haven't seen any canon feats of Erron dodging bullets and his speed feats are mostly gameplay. Even if Erron did get close a flashbang would stun Erron long enough for Mccree to put a bullet through Erron's face

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Yeah he has flashbangs and Erron has sand grenades,and Erron no slouch he can easily catch mckree off guard as well.

https://youtu.be/n5Etd275FIc?si=NO8Oo8KHXcNRVHdW

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Yes it gameplay but so is Mckree , and Their equally great Marksmanship, and since when? Unless distance was specifically stated. It would be a fare assumption imo that their close,or atleast not far apart imo,in which case Erron tear Mckree up in physicals.

But my plan remains the same. Let the best marksman win.

@reaper4. Thanks for cav ,with my uncle being murdered this helped relieve some stress. I wish you well. You can open for votes,I have nothing else to add

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@oceanmaster21: I wish you well too and I'm sorry about your loss man 😔